DU Post of the Day: "There Won't be an Election in 2004"

(DISCLAIMER: As usual, all DU posts are for comic relief and do not represent the majority of the American left. I hope.)

With all the talk lately about the elections in Spain, the posters on Democratic Underground are thinking about how our election will go. Will Bush lose support because people blame him for the attacks? Will Kerry stand a chance?

Well, according to some people in a thread entitled Bush cannot allow the election in 2004, we won't have to worry about that, because there's no way Dubya will give up his "throne!" Let's take a look:

Bush cannot allow the election in 2004. I just don't see how he can allow it. With all the fecal matter coming down on his adminstration his only hope for survival is to stay in power.

The bombing in Spain had the opposite effect expected.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/15/international/europe/15POLI.html >

Only last week several senior members of the administration said they fully expected that his conservatives would emerge victorious . In fact, months ago a senior adviser to Mr. Bush predicted that should a terrorist attack occur in Europe, it would probably drive the Europeans closer to the United States and its approach to the campaign against terror, not away from it.

If you remember Wolfowitz had a similar take on the UN's reaction to the bombing in Baghdad in ~August 2003, he was wrong too. The Bali bombing had the desired of effect of bringing the Aussies on board.

Unifying people in fear was the primary goal of Operation Northwoods. Poppy even tried restarting hostilities with Hussein as he declined in the polls in August or so of '92.

Now Hannity is talking about the possibility of stopping the elections if the US is attacked.

The end game attitude of Bush indicated by the blatant disregard for the law and public will with his unilateral attack on Iraq is anothe indicator that he intends to end democracy. He doesn't care about winning that war or any other war, just in starting them and being a "Chaos Capitalist" both in the fighting and in the aftermath. Then we have Cheney saying to Sect. Treasury O'Neill "deficits dont' matter". The seeming agenda is to bankrupt the US government and let the Biblical Reconstructionists, who coincidently are involved in ownership of the voting machine industry (google ahmanson+chalcedon+voting), work their majic on turning the country into a fascist theocracy (redundant).

I like how they refer to Bush's "unilateral" war while simultaneously blaming the war for the terror attacks in Spain. Isn't cognitive dissonance entertaining? I also like how they think "fascist theocracy" is redundant, even though fascists have a rather...uh...murderous policy toward religion. Very nice. What else do we have?

You can get in trouble for stealing, but not stopping. IMO What Bush has been able to do is hide who is responsible for terrorist attacks. There is a growing body of evidence to show the Al Qaeda link to the Intelligence Community but it still is not near mainstream in the US. So any attack will still be largely considered to be by Al Qaeda without people knowing Al Qaeda's links to the US Intelligence Community. If he can declare Martial Law then he will be able to ratchet down inquiring minds and eyes even further and call a halt to the election process.

Just some thoughts.

Oh, so that's what all this "bin Laden worked for the CIA" talk was about.

Bush will not relinquish the throne. They have any number of ways and will use all of them. Unless there is a revolution, Bush will remain in power.

How do they expect to revolt when they're afraid of guns and war?

I try not to be too cynical but I feel the same way. He wont give up the throne that easily. He/PNAC have too much invested in his reign. They rigged an election to get their boy there and I cant see them going quietly. It'll be either Diebold, an attack that would win him the election, or an attack and a suspension of election/martial law. John Kerry is poised to win this one, possibly by a landslide and Poppy and his facist PNAC buddies will do all they can to make sure junior doesnt go down like he did.

I should keep a running count of how many times I see the word "facist." What does it mean?!

I try very hard not to be too cynical but reality is reality. They will attack this election from all fronts. With so many methods we won't be able to cover everything.

We will be watching Florida but my Mom says, watch California (and elsewhere). There was much more to that recall than just getting Davis out and a repug in as governor. Recently Arnold has been spouting how he can really see California going to Bush in this election. Planting seeds so when it "happens" it's not unexpected.

Add all the dirty tricks from 2000:
absentee ballot fraud.
voter purges - yes they're still doing them in Florida.
now electronic voting with no paper receipt- no chance for manual recounts this time.
Etc., etc.

3 October (or sooner) Surprises - finding WMD's in Iraq, catching Bin Laden, another terrorist attack on US soil.

Supreme Court - nuff said

Majority in Congress & Senate if it gets to a dispute over the electors

Is there any conspiracy theory not covered in that last one?

this is getting serious I myself dont think Bush and his SS soldiers are beyond all this--- I wrote to Will Pitt months ago about this and asked him to get something out on this-----This needs to be brought to the front in the press so that this administration would automatically cancel any plans to take over----Hey they had PNAC---whats to say they dont have some other organization making studies about taking over with martial law if they have too-----why wait until its too late!!!!"

Heh heh. "SS soldiers." I didn't know Bush had a personal army. In case you didn't know, Will Pitt runs Truthout, the paranoid lefty site that, among other things, helped circulate a letter that outlined, in detail, why Bush is like Hitler. Incidentally, I gave that letter an especially "profane" fisking in January.

Let's move on to another really hysterical poster:

chaos capitalists I think describes it best Iraq is in chaos--but nevermind, Halliburton is firmly ensconced and is makiing billions. Bush and his cronies could care less--as long as they have secured the oil fields, all over Iraqk including the lucrative fields in the Kurdish territories.

This is all it was for--all the hubris and Bush posturing--why should he care? He can suspend elections next time around if he sees himself losing to Kerry --all it would take is the declaration that we are under some sort of possible seige or possibly under attack by a possible terrorist. That is all it would take, He will lie about it over and over -- no one whill challenge.

If necessary he will reinforce that lie innumerable times as will Powell, Rice and others attached to him with an unbilical cord enforce the lie. These people are evil.

He is the president and he can do what he wants and what he likes and does not have to explain to anyone, so he has most proudly said. And it is a proven that NO ONE will challenge him or accuse him of being a fascist prick who lied to his own people and invaded a country in their name on lies. They will shut up and do his bidding out of fear, I fear.

Do these people things watch the news, because people have accused Dubya of a lot worse than being a "fascist prick."

My predictions on how it might play out starting October. This election's October Surprise will hardly be a surprise to anyone here. Homeland Security will discover a "terrorist threat" pinned to "specific chatter from Al Qaeda". We will spend the entire month in code orange and perhaps even code red if the threat is deemed "imminent". Rove will have his eyes on the polls to see if the fearmongering is working. If public opinion swings wildly in support of Bush, the threat will be reported "vanquished" by our Fearless Leader and the coronation will commence. If the polls are tight, it could go either way, although with Diebold in place, they will be probably want the illusion of a fair election maintained. But if the effect of five weeks of unproven scare tactics result in a wild swing against the ruling party, a la Spain, there will be a terrorist attack and the election will be suspended. I can't think of any other time since the Civil War that there has been a greater threat to our country.

Wouldn't it be funny if it happened exactly as this poster described it? Well, I think it would be funny. Also, since I'm not going to bother fisking these (DU posts are what we call "reflexive fiskings"), I'll point out something else that popped into my head:

If a poster on...let's say, Free Republic, wrote "I can't think of any other time since the Civil War that there has been a greater threat to our country," DU would use it as an example of "Repug" bigotry, because the Civil War freed the slaves, and those evil racists see it as a threat!

This next one is something I've actually seen in other places:

and Ronald Reagan will die the day before Bush declares Martial law.

That Republican Attack Machine™ has everything figured out, doesn't it?

How they will defuse the revolution that cancelling elections causes, easy

They started that today too. There are already separate threads on here. One thread is headlined that MSNBC has a poll today showing Bush winning handily. Another thread has a headline that AOL has a poll today showing Bush winning handily over Kerry.

Funny how these 'handily winning' polls both come out same day Hannity ponders death to elections.

They have already begun defusing the uproar over a cancelled election. Bogus and numerous push polls showing Bush way ahead (anyway) add to that a terrorist attack and a Red Alert, during the red alert they amazingly FIND the WMD and kill Osama....Well it won't hurt to cancel this election, Bush is way ahead and we need to mourn our dead and celebrate the successes in the Middle East.

Welcome the American Dictatorship of Bush.

I think it's funny that when polls show declining support for Bush, DU uses it as proof that the people are turning against him, but when they go above 50%, they're "bogus."

Just a couple more. You have to go read this thread for yourself.

They've exposed themselves for the fascists they are. Now the public knows for real. The BFEE exists. And they are completely un-American. Only gangsters talk about suspending elections in a democracy. Bush and the people he works for are traitors to the Constitution, the American people, and to the nation.

Certainly, they'll do everything they can to stay in power. The thing is, the government — that is the Pentagon, the CIA, FBI, 50 statehouses, thousands of city halls, hundreds of millions living rooms where the real power in a democracy lies, the People.

They're on the run, 9215! The BFEE is scared. And they fear most the Truth! Let 'em have it. Bush is a CROOK!

What's "BFEE?" Bush Fascists Evading Elections?

By the way, before I stop, let's look at a couple more that have decided to blame Bush directly for the attacks in Madrid:

this stuff is hard to follow sometimes. I keep going back to the psychology of these fascists: what do they think will sway public opinion. IMO, the Bushies thought Spain needed its public opinion swayed to fall in line with the Bushies and Aznar's position. IMO this "Pearl Harbor like attack" was a last ditch attempt by the Bushies to sway public opinion. Now, as you can see in my "OH BOY...." post, since that didn't work the fascist slime have tried to paint the attacks as an attempt by Al Qaeda to divide the people from the "pro-US government". This is an indirect attack on Zapatoro before his first night in office. It is also an indirect way of accusing the Spanish people that they have been duped. And, a big maybe, setting the stage for a California or Venezuela style recall vote.

Hilarious. And the fun doesn't stop there:

I think the bombing was done to drive the dissenting majority in Spain to support Aznar and if Aznar had not sided with the US on Iraq its hard to tell, but I think yes because Aznar would still be the best thing the Bushies could hope for and his not siding with the US would be viewed by the US as he merely defering to a political reality: most of the people didn't want the war. So the need to bring the population "in line" would be the same whether or not Aznar supported the war.

So yea, I think the bombing would have happened in any case where the people were not in support of US policy. IMO all of these acts are done to sway public opinion.

I think of what Brezizinski and PNAC said about the need for a "Pearl Harbor like attack" to galvanize public support for an otherwise unpopular use of military force. It seems to be conventional wisdom among the conservatives that these kinds of actions will unite the people behind the current leader. But things are obviously not as simple as that. It looks like the free Press in Europe makes it more difficult for the Captains of Consciousness to bamboozle the public.

I love the conflicting tinfoil hattery here: "Bush is evil, and he attacked Spain to make them support him, but he's so dumb that he didn't realize it would turn people against him, but he's such an evil genius that he made it look like Al Qaeda or ETA..." Wow.

Just one more, I promise! I'm getting sick of typing the word "blockquote" every 30 seconds.

convenient cars and vans Isn't it funny how they always find something with maps and directions and Arabic writing near these attacks? Why not just a big flashing arrow saying this way to the big attack. On one hand they are telling us this is a worldwide sophisticated network and on the other hand we are to believe they are leaving incriminating evidence all over the place.

"Muslims are so much more devout and sophisticated than you Xtian cowboys, so they would NEVER leave evidence behind! Allahu Akbar!!!!!!"

I'm still having trouble believing that DU's posters are real people. It's best not to think about the fact that a couple dozen of them are old enough to vote.

Posted by CD on March 17, 2004 08:40 PM
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