DU Post of the Day: Reaction to the Death of Ahmed Yassin

I'll admit that I don't know very much about the Israel/Palestine situation, other than Palestine's tendency to kill people who aren't actually threatening them ("Bomb toddlers for Allah!"), so I can't really offer much insightful commentary on the subject.

Fortunately, the DU reaction to the death of the Hamas leader doesn't take a lot of thought to enjoy (to be fair, there are a lot of posts condemning Hamas, but those aren't very entertaining). Check it out:

Somehow I have a hard time seeing calm and restraint resulting from the death of poor Mr. Yassin.

Awwww...the poow widdle tewwowist!

Hamas was supported and encouraged by Israel...

"Palestinian terrorism? It was all because of the Jooooooooos!!!!"

The main issue is that when Clinton left office he almost had an agreement between the Israel and the Palestinians. When Bush won, did he take over where Clinton left off? NO, instead he ignored the whole situation for 9 months, and now it is in shambles...

"...Wait! It wasn't the Joooos! It was Bushchimpler!!!!"

This Blood is on Bush's Hands! Bush has let the Sharon fascist regime run amok and I blame Bush first, then Sharon, then the Israeli Army. While I sympathise with the Israeli victims, we all know that Israel could have captured these people they "targeted" but apparently the Israeli army has become Judge, jury and executioner. They have nothing on these people they kill, otherwise why not capture and try? Why? Because the Israeli has long ago forgotten about the rule of law and equal treatment.

The Palestinians are like a wounded animal; all they know is that they are fighting for their very existence.

"No! Wait! It was the Joooooos AND Bushchimpler!!!!"

Not to bother you with the facts, but the current Israeli government has killed far more civilians than Hamas has. And the root of the problem is the occupation. Do you know about the occupation?

"WAIT! WAIT! Hamas may have killed civilians, but...THE JOOOOOOS KILLED MORE! WE WIN!!!!"

This is fun. I'm going to post more.

Arafat is just like Washington...Hammas are Palestinian "Sons of Liberty"

The Israelis are the religious fanatics! What country has a religious test before you can immigrate to it?!! What country discriminates based on religion more than any else? Israel thats who?!! Remember that Zionists believe God himself gave them the whole of Israel! That's sounds like a Holy War started by the Israelis!

Like the British, the Israelis colonized this land that belonged mostly to someone else. Then the Israeli's basically stole, bought and chased off the inhabitants of the land. (This happened less than 60 years ago) I personally know people who had their olive farm stolen by these Israeli "fighters", the Israeli Army is really exactly the same as Hamas and the PLO. Both kill citizens solely based on political beliefs. Every one in the land of Israel must choose between the Tories(Israel) or the Rebels (PLO). The Israelis are the one perpetuating this conflict by ignoring Palestinian legitimate grievances, like England ignored ours. Just like then King George (Bush) supports the anti-democratic side.

Hilarious. I can't even comment on this one.

Killing without trial is wrong and violates the rules of war. And the Geneva Convention. First of all Yassin is not my "Buddy". He was killed by Israel without a shred of evidence, a trial or anything close to "due process".

Since 9/11 and Bush giving Sharon the green light for Sharon to KILL all members of Hamas, PLO and anyone who expresses support for them (foreign activists) (Maybe Massad will come after me next.)These are all lawfully subject to immediate targeted execution!

How many swimming pools of Hamas blood will satisfy Sharon, the Israeli Army and their fanatical supporters?? Just where is this all supposed to lead?

"Terrorism? What's that?"

The man was in a wheel chair and had two guards. Israel knew exactly where he was. Thet could have -easily- captured him. This is the head Cleric of the Palestinians. Why doesn't he deserve a trial. Why doesn't Osama deserve a trial for that matter. I would like to hear from both of them.You are essentially saying a trial would cause "more deaths" so that is now a reason for this extra-judicial killing by a supposed democracy. This concept disturbs me.

"Don't you see? Yassin and Osama are just misunderstood! Who are we to say that killing civilians is wrong without proving it in a court of law? It's just their culture!"

Missiles to get a man in a wheel chair? this is true terrorism. If any country but Israel had done this, we would be sending troops right now.

"Israel is bigoted against people who are differently-abled!!! How dare they kill him just because he was responsible for terrorism! HE WAS DIFFERENTLY-ABLED!!!"

Since when is speeches avocating national liberation a reason for a targeted killing. Why if they knew exactly where this supposed criminal is could they have not captured him and put him of trial? Why? Because they have no proof and they have long ago abandoned justice.

Its bullshit. Its murder. Cold blooded murder.

"See? He was a freedom fighter! Why did they kill him just because freedom requires blowing up Israeli buses?"

Assassination is Terrorism! Israel- a Rogue State.

Israel - a rogue state that ignores basic human rights. Israel a state that shoots missiles at handicap clerics and children.

Israel - Our best ally in the Middle East.

Israel - makes me sick

"The only real terrorists are the JOOOOOOOS!!!! Have you forgotten that Islam is a religion of PEACE, you racists?!"

interesting sharon just had a meeting with the rightwing thugs and they wanted bush`s blessing- a few hours later they kill a guy in a wheel chair that they installed to counter arafat. i suppose many here will have nothing but praise for the killing. i guess that is what they wanted now the people of israel and palistine will pay the price. and who`s happy now? got to be those fundies waiting for the rapture and the white power/nazi`s hoping that the jews all die. only god knows why sharon order the murder and only god will judge him

I don't know what it means either, although I think they managed to accuse Israel of being anti-Semitic.

...I would say the israeli lobby controls outright some aspects of america's foreign policy. And jews generaly speaking consider themselves connected to that lobby and support it.

And lets face it muslims lobby and support candidates that are viewed to be pro muslim, but they don't have the type of resources to affect much, or the population inside america to sway elections.

The problem is that any group can hijack america's foreign policy in favour of another nation. That is treason plain and simple.

I seem to remember now once america did urge israeli restraint. I do think they are much louder at calling for the palestinians to have restraint though. Can you imagine if a bunch of 'terrorists' were destroying israeli government compounds including the prime minister's offices?

Do you honestly think america would be telling the Israelis to show restraint? The politicians would lose their job if they said that. And they know it.

And one last point, I do get tired of hearing how opressed jews are and how we must constantly feel sorry for them. The way I see it they are living pretty damn well on average and we are saving their asses over in the middle east. Israel would rapidly be pushed into the sea without american support at this point in history. At minimum they would be forced to the negotiating table and have to give up a hell of a lot.

Instead of going on and on about how opressed they were, and how people are bigots for not supporting Israel enough, I want to start hearing how thankful they are to us for saving israel. Because with a growing war against islamic forces it sure as hell isn't in our interest to help them.

The best move for america at this point would be to ditch israel and help get rid of them as a symbol of how pro-muslim they were. Instead we are taking massive heat for protecting them. That deserves at minimum constant thank yous, and talk of how lucky the jewish people are to have a protector.

Gotta love that liberal tolerance.

[this is a response to another post, not the one above] That is one of my chief objections to the way US does foreign policy. We act as though we are God and get to decide who lives and dies because we can. The person who bullies because they can is in for a big fall when someone bigger and meaner comes along. The acts of terrorism we see today are the only way otherwise helpless people can fight against our military might. I used to side with Israel until I started paying more attention to one-sided the situation was. Israel has nuclear weapons and the other side has human bombs. Pictures often show boys throwing rocks at tanks. I saw a 60 minutes show a few years back about the despair the Palestinian youth live with-how they feel they have no future. The cartoons and comments you see about the Palestinians show a lot of racism against them and their religion. I certainly am not justifying their tactics but I really don't see they have any other option because they have no power except in terrorism. Just because someone rejects a peace plan really means nothing if the plan did not give equally to both sides. Emotions run strong on this issue here on DU-imagine how they feel over there....

I think that's just about enough. Maybe one more...

Supporters of this Assassination are in Moral Peril

Old time Catholics would call it a mortal sin.
A Buddhist would call it Bad Karma.

It is morally wrong to approve of these extra-judicial killings.

It is even worse to assist in them. As the supplier of over 100 billion dollars of military hardware to Israel, every single US taxpayer is indirectly responsible for this immoral action. Bush as our president is directly responsible. Sharon and the Israelis who gave Sharon power are most complicit in these murders. How can justice ever prevail?

I despair.

Me too. I despair that people like this actually exist, and they have an entire website devoted to their lunacy.

I'm depressed now.

Posted by CD on March 22, 2004 07:30 PM
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